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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
又抛出一个伦理问题，相当敏感了。可以选择不堕胎，但反堕胎还弃婴加杀人结局如此童话，感到不适。
头一次来高先电影院，也一同标记
小偷家族的一个拥抱>>>>>说了五遍的“谢谢你出生”。我爱是枝裕和，但这碗鸡汤实在太淡了些。
啊这样的温情感觉太不真实了 表演也没什么出彩的地方 堕胎的话题有点应景
期望越大失望越大 感觉浪费一众优秀的演员 这个剧本真的是 无聊透顶
/2022.7.5/看到后来，我都忘记电影名字了；是枝裕和太会拍不是一家人的一家人了；对了，那个生养观，很不赞同。
是枝裕和+韩影阵容最终变成了不伦不类，虽然同属东亚文化圈，但是日本那种不可名状无法形容的清淡和哀伤强硬塞进戏剧冲突与社会讽刺性极强的韩影中时还是稍显违和。或许韩语和日语的发音之间的区别与印象也是阻碍我理解本片的一大原因。
失望至极，是枝裕和在不断商业化的妥协中彻底迷失，过往最重要的“以人为本”被各种强加事件所掩盖，煽情配乐每出现一次，就是对主题探讨深度的一次折损。韩国团队不过不失，但所有人都是在用行活去敷衍资本，与其说是拍电影，更像是一场和气融融的《导演请指教》，估计宋康昊自己也没想到就这么拿了影帝。
以为最终会是4人掮客小分队带上婴儿组成韩版小偷家族，最后还是走了偏现实结果。总体上几个人物都刻画的不错，摩天轮两个人的对话令人动容。
看前三分之一，完全感觉不到是枝裕和的存在，后半段感觉到了，是因为小偷家族2.0，缺少了那些最最日常的细腻表达，到了结尾让你永远相信发生的这些不过是一个“好剧本”。
不知道是枝裕和的初衷是怎么样的 但整个故事选择了非常难共鸣的一个切入点 每个人物看起来都很违和 每个行为都显得很做作 洗个车就洗涤心灵了 是枝裕和什么时候这么便宜了 整部电影反高潮 角色也没有华彩 不知道宋康昊是怎么打动的戛纳评审 最后人贩子就人贩子 什么掮客
7/10.
太平淡了，是是枝裕和的味道，夏季乌云后的彩虹，低气压暴雨是保护色。
每个都有难言之隐的边缘人拼凑成临时家庭，
是好电影，但却不是是枝裕和的好电影，依然是标志性的细腻温情，相互搀扶拯救，但相较于之前的作品，却太轻太浅，可以理解为低配版《无人知晓》+《小偷家族》。
以为最终会是4人掮客小分队带上婴儿组成韩版小偷家族，最后还是走了偏现实结果。总体上几个人物都刻画的不错，摩天轮两个人的对话令人动容。
菊次郎的夏天＋阳光小美女的公路片模式，加上是枝裕和一贯的边缘人物抱团取暖式的故事。问题是剧本的意图太赤裸裸，一行人的情感链接也处理的不够好，而且韩国人演日本导演拍的片子，文化语境不同，驴头不对马嘴，有些角色行动和台词明显是日式思维日式表达，韩国人就不会那么表达那么行动，这就导致演员演的不自然，你知道他想说什么但又不能让人共情
“谢谢你的出生”，跟《小偷家族》一样，是枝裕和依旧在讨论非血缘关系的家庭联系，叙事节奏缓和，表演真切，将“掮客”这类人换了种思路去表现，母亲的加入也合理地让观众情绪往“这家人”身上一边倒（但真正可恶的人贩子去死）宋康昊戛纳影帝实至名归
有一种“我一定要在韩国拍一部电影”的感觉。主线还是是枝裕和，表演细节上很韩，尤其是一些吵架的片段。结尾太童话了，以至于让人在想导演怎么会这么温情……摩天轮那段还可以，其余部分一般，感觉跨国拍的难度都大于写出这个剧本的难度。
可以用失望来形容电影，狗血的韩剧剧情，是枝裕和在韩影的商业氛围里失去了自己细腻的特质，人与人之间情感交流在电影中荡然无存。
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