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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
电影节奏是不是太赶了？衔接有点生硬，怎么说，感觉整体有点别扭，并无太大感受
拍得景还不错，虽然在同质类里面也有，内容就还好。
没有人关心是谁操纵了一颗炸弹，他们只关心正义和事业。
韩国讲故事的能力依然还有，一个当代贾诩的心路
韩国电影这些年的一路冲顶亚洲，实在令人刮目相看
3.5 卞成贤自不汗党以来的野心越发明显，操刀正剧历史（虚构）事件里的说客与政治家的形象，受欲望吞噬、无所不用其极的影子&自有底线、理想主义、自下而上的梦想家，工具的价值是社会环境附加的还是载体特有的？这个问题仍然没有得到答案，电影在金成为候选人后丧失了焦距，卞缺乏了终结故事的能力。另：薛景求的表演隐忍克制，李的表演匍匐激烈，但我果然更喜欢卞镜头里的韩宰虎很多。
到半途，会产生一种和当时看《艺伎回忆录》一样的“不辨正邪的诡异热血感”；然而到了最后，金的鸡蛋论让我几乎感动的落泪，或许手握大权真的也是可以心怀大义的。
3星半，算是了解一点朴正熙独裁时代的选举秘闻，理想化的目标是否也需要某种不得已的手段来实现，众戏骨飙戏过瘾，李善均的演技愈加成熟。
想起早些年看的书“人的情谊，再久长，数年、数十年，总归开初那段最是金不换。”读到这里，深以为然。 我总是不大懂政治，问你你就和我讲，女朋友知道这些干啥，女朋友就是被我宠的。其实……我也不大懂你，只是政治和你，你都不愿再和我讲
韩国的政治片真是独具一格，非常有味道。扣掉一星是因为片中金大中的理念太理想化了，最后当选的结局似乎有那么一点迎合政治正确的味道，相比之下我还是更喜欢南山的部长们。本身这个影子是举正义大旗者抽离出的阴暗面的故事足够拿五星的。
政治寓言片，补补韩国历史可能看的更明白，但总体立意还是很出色的，特别是最后阵营的转换预示的政治的现实
《王者制造》止步于上述——笼统且老生常谈的政治理解，但其前中期却做出了立场选择的假动作。挑出这对特别的政客和影子，实行对立感强烈的叙事策略，而关于那些口号的实质所指却没有任何具体且坚定的憧憬或判断。如何从中看出实切的“理想主义”？
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韩国每年都会有几部关于政治的电影，这部也还不错。
在政言政，在腐败和激进的体制面前，理想主义注定无路可走。在野党的领袖金云范追求民主公正，没有正式的编制的智囊徐昌大一心谋求职位，用尽阴谋阳谋，在党内选举中反败为胜，在和执政党掰手腕的拉锯战中，政治策略的采用上出现不可调和的局面，加上一颗存在自导自演嫌疑炸弹案罗生门，让原本的应是“热恋期”的俩人分道扬镳，执政党收编了明珠暗投的徐昌大后赢得了大选，徐昌大也获得名正言顺的议员席位，实现草根人生从无到有的华丽逆袭，只不过曾经许下的豪言壮语化为泡影，立志打造民主时代的韩国梦成了镜花水月，春风得意又难掩空虚。多年后的俩人阔别重逢，脸上写满了风霜往事，如果我们没有固持己见，如果我们没有论迹不论心，我们是否早就携手缔造民主时代。可惜没如果，鸡丢了不重要，重要的是兜兜转转之后。能不能找回昂首挺胸的鸡。
可以不择手段的获得胜利，但不要忘记为什么想赢。
政治寓言片，补补韩国历史可能看的更明白，但总体立意还是很出色的，特别是最后阵营的转换预示的政治的现实
什么时候我们中国能拍这样的电影、能走上这样的道路
李室长很出彩诶，卞成贤拍得总让我觉得像在看同人2333
亚里士多德：“正义形成社会秩序”。
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