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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
不是那么无聊，可能是我比较色，喜欢这种稍微带有一点色色的电影。
如果说92版的糖果人是一种基于人类学的都市传说的禁忌演化结合美国黑人的惨痛历史。到了这部就是纯粹的有关黑人的政治隐喻了，但是这隐喻真的好无聊，刨除像表达的隐喻之外，这就是第二部用当代艺术清洁包装的天鹅绒圆锯。整体叙事技巧，和故事编排老套。而且很多探讨自相矛盾。原作的克莱夫巴克真的是一等一的恐怖大师。
近30年后重拍，节奏和剪辑还是有点瑕疵，恐怖、惊悚感都大为降低...血浆度也不够，cult味则荡然无存...
generational trauma这种事，也不是一时半会能讲完的，还是多讲讲吧，热了是好事。主角Anthony的形象还是塑造得弱了点，那个被女友扶不上墙又想要一口气的劲儿老感觉还差那么一点儿。
原来是一个政治话题的恐怖片，恐怖倒是不恐怖，演技也略浮夸
最后20min的爆发和片尾字幕的动画是全篇精髓所在：糖果人是一个蜂巢，住着无数死去的冤魂
难看至极，近30年后再出续集，故事情节有断层，叙事风格大改变，一众黑人角色登场，政治正确到我分不清谁是谁，依靠皮影回顾过往太过敷衍，讲糖果人对事件关联者的影响，不仅是人生阴影，更奇妙的是生根发芽的本质，对，极端暗黑通常会有人继承衣钵，完全狗尾续貂，血浆虐杀片变内心挣扎专场，前后毫无铺垫，配角根本无需存在，整个莫名其妙的“新糖果人”登场，相对老版故事，规避很多血腥镜头的直面，全程苦大仇深，沉浸在做作境界里，电影已经不像正统续集，感觉为新故事发展而出现的过度篇，90分钟的篇幅数独让人觉得无趣慢热，最烦这种动不动就搞政治的装逼货。★
打一遍911,就有一群白人来杀人。
没太处理好尺度，虽然看起来糖果人这个意象的背景在这部片子里被扩充和具象化了（92版是一个case，这版是诸多case的受害人集合体），但是实际意义和功能却被窄化了和偏移了。而且，要么就隐晦巧妙，要么就赤裸直白，这样子恨不得把寓意怼到脸前但是又死活不点名不说破的操作反而有些莫名地凹姿态。夸一夸好的地方，运镜极好，剪纸和镜子的使用非常精妙，片尾交代真实历史案件的设计神来之笔。
不管怎样，配乐以及霓虹摄影我挺喜欢的。但回到故事本身，全黑人阵容很难不让人想象是在影射什么。但要明白，这是恐怖片，不是文艺片。
就差射观众脸上了。一万句粗浅的政治表达也比不过拍一部好电影，一万部这种糖果人也比不过一部逃出绝命镇
确实不怎么样……女主长得很像那个近年很火的好莱坞女星anya
镜头色彩真不错，很带感，不过电影整体就一言难尽了emmm
整部电影，黑人杀的都是白人，我抗议这种对白人的种族歧视。
用“蜂巢”喻指生存的集体境遇，都市传说是现实恐怖。导演在处理惊悚情节上点到为止，也是意不在此
我想怎么满大街都是九几年的糖果人的资源，原来是新作。不算翻拍，其实是延续之前的故事，用黑人嘴里的传说+剪影带出之前女主、黑人母子和糖果人的故事，这部的男主原来就是之前的小婴儿。糖果人几次出来杀人其实都是捕风捉影式的，本身并没有怎么现身，而男主后来变成了糖果人，其实整个逻辑也不太清晰。整部片子也是说明黑人境地，但有点太刻意。
并没有那么不堪。整体调度可以，在工整流水甚至有些平庸的叙事中又做得到一定的阴郁，剪纸皮影铺垫诡异氛围。乔丹·皮尔之后的种族政治性惊悚风潮在有色群体中升起。但一些黄种人没必要在其他有色群体讲述自己群体的故事时大放厥词，说其只会“政治正确”。当你们看到自己群体拍出来的所谓“政治正确”时估计要泪流满面义愤填膺吧。
#22#03中国人不骗中国人，Candyman不杀Blackman。有此大将，三十年了居然还没统一亚美利加，连芝加哥一个拆迁弄堂都整不明白。想象力还是保守了
一部黑人血泪史 糖果人和隐形人设定相像 都是你看不见 但危险就在那里 观众比角色更能感知危险从而加重了惊悚 以及通过媒介在剧情设定和摄影上玩花样（镜子-任何反射的东西/衣服-任何能覆盖或沾染的东西）
一部政治运动下简单空洞的时令之作，口号型电影。Contre-stéréotypes的运用并不巧妙，用白人资产阶级的标准像完整套在黑人角色身上来强调“从贫民窟到高级公寓，境遇并无变化”，魔法打败魔法这种简单粗暴的形式显得太笨拙了，叙事也太零散破碎不吸引人，只有美术设计还不错。也只能在这个时代获得政治正确式的好评。
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