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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
年少时最喜欢的中国动画
优秀的有点诡异的动画，老狐狸，俏狐狸，单腿狐狸。
我想的是看到马克思的形象，袁公的脸是很适合的一个缩写，马克思的《资本论》就是工人阶级的救世天书，触犯统治阶级颜面的他只能落下个悲痛的离去下场，而早已看穿一切的马克思微笑夹杂讽刺地面对，上层建筑早已需要修改完善，天书方法却被压制不让生产，生产力和生产关系的冲突就在此刻！
补评，在我记忆里是上美，甚至是国产动画片最后的经典之作，之后没有了！别提那些狗尾续貂的作品！剧情上，我是哭着离开剧场的（小时候），成年人了，看此片还有其他的深度，就不谈了。
小学上课的时候做了本 天书 被老师批评了....
好象是这个月十几号看的
中国传统故事的代表写法，有点像是西游记番外篇，以前可能可以看，但现在再这样写是不行了，像中间部分两只狐狸偷了天书后大段简单重复的舞蹈画面，模式化的台词，有情节无细节的场景，也许它曾经是里程碑，但新时代有新起点，中国特色的动漫创作，到底要怎样才能让人眷恋呢？ps.剧中的建筑画面不错
并不觉得这部片子如其评分和评价一般神乎其神，但的确反映出四十年前的动画作品走的是于当下不同且显著高于当下的路子。观影的时候不断思考两个问题：一是国内的动画（和动画之外）何至于自我阉割至今天的水平；二是作为艺术的动画或许不只如皮克斯工作室代表的极度逼真一条发展路线，几笔线条带来的审美体验完全可以不输计算机营造的极致光影。
各种中国元素的造型设计太棒了。人物设计都挺有趣儿，师徒、衙役、县太爷、小皇帝。本身的文本解读空间也非常大，结尾戛然而止本身也也蕴含极大的对无可撼动的天庭的批判。聚宝盆出现的许多爸爸惊悚。有关剧情的几个疑问：1.为什么天书被刻了下来不直接毁掉？2.为什么设置为蛋生并未打败狐妖，而是师傅下来帮忙？师傅被抓走之后呢？蛋生会被天庭允许存在吗？
我晕，原来这片叫天书奇谭啊，十几年后才知道！
我喜欢的人物造型。小时候绝对看着害怕。现在看来很有滋味。
这推理不比柯南剧场版强？
上美厂作为建国后几代国人的共同记忆，在美学风格上是曾经达到过迪士尼、吉卜力的水平的，虽然因为更加注重传统文化的本土表达，在思想内核的普世性上比两者差一些，但也更凸显了中国动画王者的地位。只是市场化浪潮之下，别说上美厂，连吉卜力都日渐式微了（前几年花大力气做出来的《辉夜姬物语》算是最后的辉煌了），也就迪士尼能凭借全球化的先发优势到处攻城略地。在3D动画的大潮下，欧洲的黏土动画已经好多年都没有代表作品了，上美厂曾经的水墨、木偶、剪纸、皮影动画更是几乎绝迹。好在，去年6月份腾讯视频、今年10月份西瓜视频开始陆续上线上美厂的超清修复作品，现在院线又上映了《天书奇谭》的4K修复版，闲置许久的老胶片终于可以利用起来了。
和普罗米修斯的真正相像之处是内在的悲剧精神:悲剧艺术家不是悲观主义者,相反他肯定一切可疑可怕的东西,富有启迪意义的一切不幸都是正当的,英雄的悲剧让人感到生命的丰盈,悲剧英雄不怨恨,只馈赠。片中所有主要角色身上的力都相当复杂多元,甚至蛋生也不是严格的伟光正型男主,而是轻盈快乐和善于变通的。
风间只是想和春日部防卫队一起变成精英，人啊走着走着就散了，谁还记得幼稚园的朋友啊（emm，我竟然没上过幼稚园）
片头的字写得好漂亮。类似盗火的普罗米修斯（在当时的条件下还无法将“天书”的奥秘分享给每一个人），可悲的是这片现在看也不过时。
可视为成人动画~
我怎么那么那么喜欢这部 我觉得画的真是太好咧
蛋生~~蛋生~~~~某天熊说马诺很像里面的老狐狸精。。。。。
之前看过，yyds，这次4k重制又去看了！好可爱，好有趣啊！美术风格非常特别也很漂亮，年代感很重，配音太棒了！而且那时的剧本真敢写啊！
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